MJ said: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Going back more widely for a moment: yes, it would be great if a user group allows users to discuss RFPs and so on, but that wouldn't justify restricting developers in a USERS AND DEVELOPERS group. I await to see how KUDOS develops with interest.</span><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "></span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">To which I wish to clarify....I'll keep everyone posted about the "enhancement database RFP" we're pursuing on the Evergreen side to see if there's an interest on the Koha side. And I too wish to be clear that I am in favor of KUDOS being a Koha Users and Developers group. </span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Lori Ayre<br>
</span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM, MJ Ray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjr@phonecoop.coop">mjr@phonecoop.coop</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">Dan Scott <<a href="mailto:denials@gmail.com">denials@gmail.com</a>><br>
</div><div class="im">> Actually, the Evergreen community is in a trial period of using<br>
> LaunchPad (<a href="http://launchpad.net/evergreen" target="_blank">http://launchpad.net/evergreen</a>) for many of these purposes<br>
<br>
</div>Would you believe that I decided against replying earlier in the<br>
thread that the last thing the world needs is another repeat of the<br>
Launchpad problem which gives everyone Yet Another website to check<br>
for bugs?<br>
<br>
So I'm pretty disappointed to see Launchpad appear here. It is more<br>
of a black hole than a tool, in that it tries to track everyone and<br>
draw them into using it. Launchpad.net has claimed that I am a member<br>
twice, even though I have never agreed to membership. I get a bit<br>
annoyed about such silly failures to respect people's basic rights.<br>
<br>
Whatever is chosen, please can it be something which at least<br>
gives people the freedom to choose whether or not to associate?<br>
Voluntary membership is not only a cooperative principle, it's even<br>
in the UDHR.<br>
<br>
Of course, bugzilla has a related drawback in that most site<br>
configurations don't allow you to contribute if you choose not<br>
to associate. That's better than Launchpad in that you do have a<br>
choice, but a front-end could address that problem, as well as<br>
being more user-friendly.<br>
<br>
<br>
Going back more widely for a moment: yes, it would be great if a user<br>
group allows users to discuss RFPs and so on, but that wouldn't<br>
justify restricting developers in a USERS AND DEVELOPERS group.<br>
I await to see how KUDOS develops with interest.<br>
<br>
Hopa that explains,<br>
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