<div><br></div>Ide. I'm not Eric's brother. ;-)<div><br></div><div>And you needn't assume or read into anything I write. I'm just not that deep. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Now, let's say I buy out a company or two and I get certain assets from those buyouts. How much do you think I should charge to resell those assets to anyone else, even a foundation? And how would donating those assets benefit me to the same compensatory level that everyone in the foundation would achieve? I expend capital to expand my company and ensure continued use of important resources, and then I give it away? To people with their own companies, many of which compete directly with mine?<br>
<br></div><div>If you think reimbursement of DNS costs and maybe trademark application fees would cover the bill, I would say you are wrong by a considerable magnitude. I might even raise the price, knowing that there's a demand for these assets. But that's just me, being shallow. :-D</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-- Ben</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Thomas Dukleth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kohalist@agogme.com">kohalist@agogme.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">The capacity of any Koha foundation to fulfil purposes which some people<br>
have expressed a desire for it to fulfil will be limited to the resources<br>
which people donate to it. Donated resources may be legal registrations,<br>
such as trademarks and domains; material assets, such as computer servers;<br>
monetary resources; or people's time. Donation of some monetary resources<br>
would be needed for the community to maintain some assets in the most<br>
minimal manner even if all other resources might be donated.<br>
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Original Subject: Re: [Koha] Foundation forming #koha IRC meeting 29 October<br>
On Thu, October 29, 2009 10:28, MJ Ray wrote:<br>
> Thomas Dukleth asked:<br>
>> On Wed, October 28, 2009 20:37, Ben Ide wrote:<br>
>> > Dang. I'll be busy again.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Be sure to decide how much the community is willing to spend on<br>
>> purchasing<br>
>> > the assets it wants to acquire.<br>
>><br>
>> Ben, why should the community necessarily need to purchase assets or<br>
>> what<br>
>> assets would the community necessarily need to purchase?<br>
><br>
> I'm not sure that all asset holders have agreed to donate all assets,<br>
> so it seems a worthwhile question.<br>
><br>
> More generally, isn't it fair to at least reimburse any out-of-pocket<br>
> expenses for registrations of things like domain names?<br>
<br>
It would certainly be fair to reimburse those who need reimbursement for<br>
reasonable expenses incurred to secure registrations such as domain names.<br>
Not everyone would necessarily be expected to have the capacity to donate<br>
assets which a Koha foundation would need to function properly without<br>
reimbursement of reasonable expenses.<br>
<br>
The community would first need to know what reimbursements are being<br>
requested and to have resources with which to pay for reimbursements which<br>
might be needed. The community cannot effectively decide how much is<br>
reasonable to pay in an a priori manner.<br>
<br>
Those without the capacity to donate resources would need to inform the<br>
community what reimbursement is needed. The Koha foundation would need to<br>
receive some monetary assets. The community would then need to decide<br>
whether particular reimbursements are reasonable in themselves and an<br>
appropriate use of community resources.<br>
<br>
The wording of Ben Idle's question seemed to me as if it might imply that<br>
some may seek more than reasonable expenses as a condition of releasing<br>
some assets which the community may need. I questioned whether purchases<br>
as distinct from reimbursements would necessary. (I recognise that the<br>
distinction would not be a linguistic distinction in all uses of the word<br>
purchase but the overall effect of how Ben put the issue implied a<br>
distinction to me.) I hope that no party places the community in a<br>
position to have decide about whether to pay more than reasonable expenses<br>
for any needed assets.<br>
<br>
I hope that in most cases that parties will have the capacity to merely<br>
donate assets as fundamental as legal registrations. I expect that<br>
generally those who had the capacity to acquire legal registrations in the<br>
first place would have the capacity to donate them but I recognise that<br>
might not always be true.<br>
<br>
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Thomas Dukleth<br>
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