<div>Joshua:</div> <div>You are wonderful!!! You mention you used the Koha MARC edit in catalogue, that means you manually enter the Chinese books in koha catalogue, and not download the record from some libraries?</div> <div> </div> <div>Pardon me if this question appears to be silly. But your input is very helpful still.</div> <div> </div> <div>Carol<BR><BR><B><I>Joshua Ferraro <jmf@liblime.com></I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">OK ... sorry it's taken so long for a response on this, I'm currently<BR>involved in a migration for a client....here goes:<BR><BR>First off, thanks for asking this question, in the process of answering it<BR>I discovered and fixed two bugs in the Koha MARC editor (so before you<BR>try this I'd suggest updating Biblio.pm and addbiblio.pl to the latest<BR>CVS versions, ask me for details if you need to).<BR><BR>So, using
the Koha MARC editor, I did a bit of original MARC cataloging<BR>for a Chinese language book. koha.liblime.com, like Carol's Koha, runs<BR>on UTF-8, so it can easily store and display any UTF-8 Characters. Here<BR>is the record:<BR><BR>http://opac.liblime.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?bib=23717<BR><BR>You'll notice that I used the 880 Linkage fields to add the pinyin<BR>as specified in the MARC standard. The interesting bit is that although<BR>Koha does not yet understand how to treat the 880 $6 (which as far as<BR>I can tell is a true exception to the rule), a keyword search for the<BR>pinyin does in fact bring up the record. (author and title won't work<BR>however). So that's good, not great, but good.<BR><BR>Notice that there are also Linkage entries in the 100 and 245 tags: it<BR>goes both ways. I understand how this could be used by the system to<BR>not only link the two for searching, but also to generate the proper<BR>rules of the associated 880 tag. Of course,
understanding how it SHOULD<BR>work, doesn't mean it does yet ... but keep reading, it gets better,<BR>I promise.<BR><BR>As I understand it, one of the ways 880 can be used is for transliteration,<BR>that is, storing different ways to represent the same language. Now, here's<BR>the problem with 880 in MARC: it's far too limited for what I'd like you<BR>to be able to do. First, it doesn't allow any fine distinctions for different<BR>'scripts'. You can, in fact, specify the kind of script you're linking<BR>but you only have the following choices:<BR><BR>(3 Arabic<BR>(B Latin<BR>$1 Chinese, Japanese, Korean<BR>(N Cyrillic<BR>(2 Hebrew<BR><BR>However, at least in Standard Mandarin, which I studied, there are no<BR>less than five ways to represent the language: traditional hanzi, simple<BR>hanzi, pinyin, Yale and Wade-Giles (well, there's also Zhuyinfuhao, but I<BR>assume you are not tailoring to youngsters). MARC is sadly lacking in that<BR>you can only provide a one-to-one mapping and
thus only include two<BR>representation variations.<BR><BR>But let's not stop there. In addition to there being lots of different<BR>ways to represent the Chinese language, there are also many ways to<BR>_encode_ _each_ representation. UTF-8 and Big-5 are two that come to<BR>mind. I suspect this is where most of the problem comes from in the <BR>first place: your students being at keyboards without the ability to<BR>encode in the proper way to search the traditional catalog.<BR><BR>Here comes Koha to the rescue, and here's what I would suggest you start<BR>doing. First, have a look at what it looks like:<BR><BR>http://opac.liblime.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?bib=23719<BR><BR>What you are looking at is a record for a Chinese language book that<BR>I cataloged using Koha's MARC editor after making several minor<BR>adjustments to the Koha MARC Framework. Without breaking any MARC<BR>rules, using local use fields, and using Koha's 'search also'<BR>feature, you can find that
record using a keyword, author, or<BR>title search using ANY of UTF-8, Big5, pinyin, Yale, or Wade-Giles.<BR>But don't stop there, you can add as many transliterations as you<BR>like, there is literally no limit. Oh ... and feel free to leave<BR>those 880s in there, some day Koha will be able to handle them<BR>as well.<BR><BR>Eat your heart out Voyager :-).<BR><BR>-- <BR>Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE<BR>President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support<BR>LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS<BR>jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>
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