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<DIV>you said: "unhelpful "we're not using <BR>koha" reply to a survey, cc'd to the developers (to annoy them?"</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Our reply: I believe we hit reply all on the mail page... whatever addresses were in there of course were cc'ed! Why did we reply to the survey we were not using it (yet)? Please study it... We, as well as others that exist in the academic, scientific and technical community use the library of congress numbers rather than Dewey to catalog our books in.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Let us digress back into history further ... this was a feature that had been requested ages ago, most probably before you came on board and had slipped though the cracks. Both the LC and Dewey information is present in the MARC record, and at the expense of sounding harsh, if you do not know what a library of congress cataloging number is, and you are doing programming work on this project, perhaps you should study up on it a bit.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>You mentioned.... "links to other projects"</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>I believe what you are referring to was he DYNIX Link... If you are not familiar with DYNIX you need to be. It is a very expensive product with many interesting features. If you carefully read the message that included the DYNIX link it was to offer a look at the other part of the world you are personally attempting to involve yourself in. Only by examining all of the product offerings that are out there will you understand what the state of the art is. This state of the art is what others that are looking at library automation systems look at also. As I had previously stated.... it is always a goal to meet or exceed what exists already... and HEY!( yep this one was a shout) if you don;t study it you will continue along in a direction that you think is reality but the rest of the world is examining he entire picture, not just what you are working on...</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3>Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT face=Arial>On 2003-12-23 02:04:53 +0000 ed sharpe <esharpe@uswest.net> wrote:<BR><BR>> perhaps we could also hope that there are some programmers on this <BR>> project<BR>> for purely altruistic reasons and not trying to milk $$ from each <BR>> line of<BR>> code.... sometimes things need to get done just for the pure reason <BR>> they<BR>> need to get done....<BR><BR>I am quite uphappy about this email. I may as well write that "we <BR>could also hope that there are some librarians who work for purely <BR>altruistic reasons and not trying to milk $$ from each collection". We <BR>all know that programmers need money to live, just like librarians, so <BR>why be so hostile to the idea?<BR><BR>Library free software interests me. There are some libraries which are <BR>real assets to their communities and could benefit from it, but I have <BR>no grant funding any more. I have to make money to live and koha-based <BR>projects are part of that. There is a lot of koha work that I do for <BR>free, including things that "need to get done" but no-one will pay <BR>for. I cannot afford to help everyone for free, so I pick a few things <BR>at a time which look like fun, good ideas and worthwhile. I hope that <BR>someone appreciates it, even if you don't.<BR><BR>The paid work is on top of that, extra to the time that I would spend <BR>on koha anyway. If we've no paid work on koha, that time gets filled <BR>with other paid work because it has to be. Payment brings extra <BR>programmer time to koha. (Don't worry about my email writing: I type <BR>very quickly.) Those priorities are determined by what the payer <BR>wants, so if your idea doesn't get worked on for free and it's <BR>important to you, consider trying it commercially.<BR><BR>Maybe smecc can't afford to do that. I can't find details about staff <BR>or funding on its web site. Off the top of my head, I can't recall <BR>what they contributed or offered to koha. A quick search for smecc on <BR>the lists gives the LoC request many times, including some BLOCK CAPS <BR>SHOUTING, links to other projects, and an unhelpful "we're not using <BR>koha" reply to a survey, cc'd to the developers (to annoy them?). I <BR>think people wanting free help need to be more open about their <BR>institution and reasons, and nicer to potential helpers. I suspect it <BR>will be the same with any of Pat's suggested groups. No-one donates to <BR>people who offend them, even a charity.<BR><BR>> (remember folks to make it print out the library of congress catalog <BR>> number<BR>> instead of the Dewey number it is just one field you are dealing <BR>> with! )<BR><BR>I don't know/remember what's required for this. I probably won't do it <BR>unless I need it, because I've other things to do and it now makes me <BR>think of this unhappy exchange. I think you should reconsider your <BR>methods of motivating people. Maybe you can find out what has to be <BR>done and record it on bug report 498.<BR><BR>-- <BR>MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know.<BR>Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read<BR>http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef@jabber.at<BR> Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Koha mailing list<BR>Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz<BR>http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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